Comments on: Finding the “Magic” in the Gartner Quadrant http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/ Breaking Research Boundaries Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:45:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: garymacfadden http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-302 garymacfadden Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:27:18 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-302 S...Thanks for the comments. Integration of key information management applications is of paramount importance to users. S…Thanks for the comments. Integration of key information management applications is of paramount importance to users.

]]> By: garymacfadden http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-226 garymacfadden Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:27:18 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-226 S...Thanks for the comments. Integration of key information management applications is of paramount importance to users. S…Thanks for the comments. Integration of key information management applications is of paramount importance to users.

]]> By: sbanovic http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-219 sbanovic Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:48:44 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-219 Gary - You have a very good grasp of what the market is about in the archiving space. As you know, the lines between archiving, records management, digital asset management, eDiscovery and compliance are blurring at a rapid pace. In order for Gartner to maintain a value proposition they must continue to pigeon-hole their criteria in order to maintain credibility (and customer retention). The sad thing is, if the solution isn't a leader or at the very least a visionary, it's an also-ran product that many executives about the virtues of a product that is considered not "cutting the mustard". Gary – You have a very good grasp of what the market is about in the archiving space. As you know, the lines between archiving, records management, digital asset management, eDiscovery and compliance are blurring at a rapid pace. In order for Gartner to maintain a value proposition they must continue to pigeon-hole their criteria in order to maintain credibility (and customer retention). The sad thing is, if the solution isn't a leader or at the very least a visionary, it's an also-ran product that many executives about the virtues of a product that is considered not “cutting the mustard”.

]]> By: garymacfadden http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-212 garymacfadden Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:22 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-212 A...Thanks for the comments. I guess being vague can have its advantages. A…Thanks for the comments. I guess being vague can have its advantages.

]]> By: garymacfadden http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-211 garymacfadden Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:24:21 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-211 Dave...Well said Dave…Well said

]]> By: ajbowles http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-203 ajbowles Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:53:58 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-203 nice note Gary - I love the way Gartner's attorneys position the MQ:<br><br>"Thus, the Magic Quadrant format itself rebuts any suggestion that it is a statement of fact."<br><br>That's the last line on page 12 of Gartner's motion to dismiss. They also describe "Completeness of Vision" as "an inherently vague, qualitative judgment" so I think they have a valid defense. Of course, that may not be what clients hear from the salesforce, and it isn't what analysts like to talk about... nice note Gary – I love the way Gartner's attorneys position the MQ:

“Thus, the Magic Quadrant format itself rebuts any suggestion that it is a statement of fact.”

That's the last line on page 12 of Gartner's motion to dismiss. They also describe “Completeness of Vision” as “an inherently vague, qualitative judgment” so I think they have a valid defense. Of course, that may not be what clients hear from the salesforce, and it isn't what analysts like to talk about…

]]> By: dvellante http://wikibon.org/blog/finding-the-%e2%80%9cmagic%e2%80%9d-in-the-gartner-quadrant/comment-page-1/#comment-202 dvellante Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:32:34 +0000 http://wikibon.org/blog/?p=1783#comment-202 Gary...I agree Magic Quadrants serve a purpose. More often than not for practitioners its a cya on a vendor/product decision or a good shortlist of which vendors to invite to an rfp. What they don't do, especially in areas like email archiving and eDiscovery, is give a clear indication of strategic fit and the ROI 'sweet spot.' Horses for courses as they saying goes. Gary…I agree Magic Quadrants serve a purpose. More often than not for practitioners its a cya on a vendor/product decision or a good shortlist of which vendors to invite to an rfp. What they don't do, especially in areas like email archiving and eDiscovery, is give a clear indication of strategic fit and the ROI 'sweet spot.' Horses for courses as they saying goes.

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